Comments on: Android: room to grow http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/ Android videos, reviews, RSS, and forums Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:37:14 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: PencilPusherz http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1996 PencilPusherz Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:51:08 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1996 Android is definitely still young and needs time to grow. With that being said, I do feel that Google along with the hardware manufacturers need to implement the option for apps2sd and internal storage. Not having those two options as mandatory is the only thing I see stunting Androids growth. Maybe I'm biased because I have a rooted G1 and I'd much rather run productivity apps as opposed to games but like the article says, that's not what the general public is concerned with. Once Google tackles that issue the growth of Android is inevitable. Android is definitely still young and needs time to grow. With that being said, I do feel that Google along with the hardware manufacturers need to implement the option for apps2sd and internal storage. Not having those two options as mandatory is the only thing I see stunting Androids growth. Maybe I’m biased because I have a rooted G1 and I’d much rather run productivity apps as opposed to games but like the article says, that’s not what the general public is concerned with. Once Google tackles that issue the growth of Android is inevitable.

]]> By: mightymatt http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1979 mightymatt Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:52:42 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1979 who knows if the ipod touch or the iphone can run apps from a memory card? we will never know, because the memory will always be internal. I think the solution is to ship the phones with 8+ GB of storage. Is this internal memory particularly expensive for manufacturers? It seems like there is something else going on here, it doesn't seem normal that a phone like the Droid would ship with the great specs it has and only 512mb of memory, when a 4gb thumbdrive is $10 retail... I wonder if android can has the technical ability to address large ammounts of internal memory... who knows if the ipod touch or the iphone can run apps from a memory card? we will never know, because the memory will always be internal.

I think the solution is to ship the phones with 8+ GB of storage.

Is this internal memory particularly expensive for manufacturers?

It seems like there is something else going on here, it doesn’t seem normal that a phone like the Droid would ship with the great specs it has and only 512mb of memory, when a 4gb thumbdrive is $10 retail…

I wonder if android can has the technical ability to address large ammounts of internal memory…

]]> By: Sven http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1952 Sven Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:38:30 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1952 Yes, it would be nice to run apps straight from an sd card, but why the hell do I need to play Myst on my phone? I have an ipod touch (not the biggest fan) and I don't play all that many games on it. I know there are a buzillion apps available for use on iStuff and iThings that are huge, but if I really want to play a game I look to one of the handhelds from Sony or Nintendo. If I think I'm going to have the time to play Grand Theft Auto I can probably convince myself to bring along something made specifically for games. What about the extra cost of owning all that stuff, you say? You're paying $200 for a phone and $30 a month for the data plan alone... I'm guessing you can afford another toy. I know there will be a day when productivity software and all kinds of fun stuff will start showing up (even more than it already has) for smartphones, but do-everything devices are still young. Give developers and manufacturers a little time to figure things out and they'll at least come up with some workable solution. But so far there isn't really a huge need for the Droid to be able to run a 3 gig app, so I'm not all that worried. I don't think we need to fight about this, but I apologize if I've offended anyone... I don't dislike you, I just think you're wrong. Yes, it would be nice to run apps straight from an sd card, but why the hell do I need to play Myst on my phone? I have an ipod touch (not the biggest fan) and I don’t play all that many games on it. I know there are a buzillion apps available for use on iStuff and iThings that are huge, but if I really want to play a game I look to one of the handhelds from Sony or Nintendo. If I think I’m going to have the time to play Grand Theft Auto I can probably convince myself to bring along something made specifically for games. What about the extra cost of owning all that stuff, you say? You’re paying $200 for a phone and $30 a month for the data plan alone… I’m guessing you can afford another toy.

I know there will be a day when productivity software and all kinds of fun stuff will start showing up (even more than it already has) for smartphones, but do-everything devices are still young. Give developers and manufacturers a little time to figure things out and they’ll at least come up with some workable solution. But so far there isn’t really a huge need for the Droid to be able to run a 3 gig app, so I’m not all that worried.

I don’t think we need to fight about this, but I apologize if I’ve offended anyone… I don’t dislike you, I just think you’re wrong.

]]> By: Franco Solari http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1855 Franco Solari Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:08:27 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1855 I have to agree, google needs to step up on two points first of all, multi-touch in the android sdk and in android all around, i dont want it in increments like the droid. Second of all actually this is more important. What the entire article was about, apps2sd! I have rooted and flashed a cooked rom on my g1 but my friends with android phones that are normal consumers have no idea of what that is. When i was looking through my friends ipod touch and downloaded an app from itunes i saw the immense size of some of these apps and i was amazed at first i thought it was iphones hardware that pushes out those great graphics but android has OpenGl as well, hardware manufacturers have to either make large amount of space a standard or include large sdcards and have google implement apps2sd. Android really has the potential to win Google just has to listen to our cry and give the peopl what they want /end rant I have to agree, google needs to step up on two points first of all, multi-touch in the android sdk and in android all around, i dont want it in increments like the droid. Second of all actually this is more important. What the entire article was about, apps2sd! I have rooted and flashed a cooked rom on my g1 but my friends with android phones that are normal consumers have no idea of what that is.
When i was looking through my friends ipod touch and downloaded an app from itunes i saw the immense size of some of these apps and i was amazed at first i thought it was iphones hardware that pushes out those great graphics but android has OpenGl as well, hardware manufacturers have to either make large amount of space a standard or include large sdcards and have google implement apps2sd.
Android really has the potential to win Google just has to listen to our cry and give the peopl what they want
/end rant

]]> By: Luis http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1849 Luis Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:17:14 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1849 I beleive this would only affect the gamers, but even that a real gamer would buy a ps3 or xbox 360. In my opinion Android devices have enough memory and I agree wit JAE. Even tho it would be better to have more memory,it would be a waste of memory for the apps in the Android market. I beleive this would only affect the gamers, but even that a real gamer would buy a ps3 or xbox 360. In my opinion Android devices have enough memory and I agree wit JAE. Even tho it would be better to have more memory,it would be a waste of memory for the apps in the Android market.

]]> By: John Walton http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1824 John Walton Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:45:32 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1824 Right you are. I should have specified fragmentation to the point that apps are device exclusive. Right you are. I should have specified fragmentation to the point that apps are device exclusive.

]]> By: calikorban http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1818 calikorban Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:46:15 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1818 You know if the option to make a bigger game was available then you would see more games out there that were larger. Maybe not 730 mb. Why make the game if the space is not available to store it. That will need to come first. You know if the option to make a bigger game was available then you would see more games out there that were larger. Maybe not 730 mb. Why make the game if the space is not available to store it. That will need to come first.

]]> By: Wimberly http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1809 Wimberly Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:20:08 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1809 "If Android is to avoid fragmentation..." oops, too late :) “If Android is to avoid fragmentation…”

oops, too late :)

]]> By: PeDe http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1807 PeDe Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:58:39 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1807 you need to read this http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/bf0709c157451cd9?pli=1 you need to read this http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/bf0709c157451cd9?pli=1

]]> By: Clayton http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2009/11/android-room-to-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-1806 Clayton Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:50:17 +0000 http://www.droiddog.com/?p=2925#comment-1806 My understanding is that while SD cards can not be used for the executable programs, they CAN be used for data (perhaps with some limitations?) So then, in this example, wouldn't it be possible to put the Myst data files (presumably the vast majority of that 730MB) on the SD card, while leaving the actual 'app' (executable) to reside in internal memory? My understanding is that while SD cards can not be used for the executable programs, they CAN be used for data (perhaps with some limitations?) So then, in this example, wouldn’t it be possible to put the Myst data files (presumably the vast majority of that 730MB) on the SD card, while leaving the actual ‘app’ (executable) to reside in internal memory?

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