Nexus One pricing: another angle

There’s a horrible downside to preparing to launch one of the most hyped tech gadgets known to man. There’s absolutely no way the product or services in store can live up to expectations. When someone says “You will never see the world the same again!!!” They do themselves or the product they speak of a disservice.

It seemed to me that today’s leak of Google’s purported price points – $530 outright and $180 subsidized by a 500-minute plan – was met with nearly universal disappointment. As if Google had spent the last month or two setting us up for the most anti-climactic “revolution” since…well, whatever hyperbolous press release you read this morning. I’m not sure hyperbolous is a real word, but it works for me.

But what if Google had a VoIP solution in place that would kick in automatically when you hit your 500 minute limit? If it meant the end of overage charges, would the Nexus One reclaim its position as a awe-inspiring game-changer that it has held in the public psyche since those first images were leaked? I don’t have any inside information here. I’m just talking.

I find it hard to believe that we have all of the information that’s going to be officially disclosed on January 5th. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Google recently purchased SipPhone – the company that created Gizmo – and that Google Voice invites went out when they did… or to who they did, in some cases. I don’t know exactly what’s going to happen here, but I’m pretty sure there’s more to the story than we currently know.

500 minutes on T-Mo’s voice and then unlimited VoIP on their 3G? That sounds like a game-changer to me. Just talking.

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Google said they will not sell Nexus One anymore, a failure.

Google said they will not sell Nexus One anymore, a failure.

haha....you're so lame.

haha....you're so lame.

Thanks for information, I'll always keep updated here!

There has been a lot of hype and tension erupted after the unveiling of the nexus one. Today, we are seeing some of the errors and glitches that a future user may want to look before buying the N1 phone. As they said, 530 USD has never became cheap. Details: http://bit.ly/nexus-one-disadvantages-compiled-...

does nuxus one have wifi calling with tmobile

Google is like Wal Mart, they suck big time. Only 500 minutes and I Cannot keep my current t mobile plan that I have that is unlimited for only 80.00 a month with taxes ? I was looking forward to getting the nexus one as I am off contract with T Mobile, but google is bending me over big time. $530 for a freaking phone ?? Why ? They suck and again just want to screw the consumer. Nice, way to go Google.

I don't think it makes sense for a VoIP system to kick in AFTER the 500 minutes of regular talk time runs out. This is what DOES make sense though... Let's say the N1 is set up to work mostly on VoIP. This would be great because whenever you are on the 3G network or Wi-Fi, you could get unlimited calling to anybody at any time. However, there are places that you can't get 3G or Wi-Fi access, and in order to make a call, you would need to have regular talk time minutes. So, the 500 minutes would only be used as backup when you need them. That would make perfect sense why they would only sign you up on a 500 minute contract for a subsidized phone. If this type of VoIP system is put into place, however, I would buy the phone at full cost and then get T-Mobile's 500 minute no-contract plan for $60 a month. I figured that would save me about $130 over two years and possibly more in taxes.

You can already do VoIP on Android so where is the game changer? I'm confused. It seems to me that any VoIP service and Google Voice should allow you to save your minutes for incoming calls. Did you have something else in mind?

John, John, John.....I haven't heard such malarkey since,well, I can't remember when I've heard malarkey as ridiculous as this.I'll wait and see if the rumors are, IN FACT, correct. If so, how is it you younger guys put it, FAIL !

So......with the Google Voice in action, as I have it set to my mobile # and tagged as one of my 5 faves, why would I need anything more? I never go over my allotted minutes each month anyway. All I have to do is get this bad boy rooted, upgraded, and a-w-a-y we go. :)

Disagree with you on the VoIP thing for three reasons: 1. I do not think T-Mobile is ready to just be a dumb pipe. 2. I doubt Google has had enough time to get the VoIP working reliably over cellular data networks. They only just bought Gizmo5 a few months ago. That would be an amazing turn-around time. 3. Going full VoIP kills Google's claim with the FCC that they are not a phone company. Routing calls over a VoIP network from a handset, and terminating them through Google Voice, would pretty much make them a phone company, and would subject them to FCC regulation.

Just let us have T-Mo's $40 data only plan and use Google Voice for talk and texting. Now that would be a game-changer!

Guess that's for new subs. If I go through the website to "upgrade" my phone, it still shows the old 25 for web and 35 for web+test.

This plan sucks donkey dick lol. I feel bad for anyone that wants to get this phone.

Who cares about the 500 minute thing... this is the era of texting and facebook and twitter.

why not just make a 100% VOIP phone

I just noticed that tmobile has their rate plans at $30. When did that happen? I thought they were $25 without text messages.

It doesn't sound like a game changer to me. But then again I was never caught up in all the hype that writers such as yourself have been shoveling about this phone anyway. Like any standard cellphone that can run Google Voice, any plan can be considered unlimited if you use Google Voice and make your access # part of your friends and family, fav 5, etc. It's a standard cellphone, accept it and move on. There's no game changing afoot here!

Oh, absolutely agree on that. This is the first article of yours I've read, so can't say if you've contributed to the "crazy" hype or not, but I doubt it.I personally was just expecting a good new phone. Even if it cost $250 subsidized, but I could keep my plan, then this is still good for me. And I think $530 for the phone unlocked is OK too.My expectations are reasonable...it's the weird "one plan" thing that isn't. But let's hope this is wrong, or doesn't last long.

There has to be more to this story on minutes and pricing, there's no way this will work in googles favor at its current rumored state.

Also I have t-mobiles my fave plan. Ever since, never gone over minutes, its lovely. However I agree lets wait til 0105

That sounds like an amazing idea, for VoIP to kick in after 500, just wondering though, doesn't VoIP require 3g

VOIP for minutes over 500 is silly. If they can offer that, then why can't they offer VOIP for all minutes and eliminate the voice plan? Just sounds like a big sellout to me.If Google wants this phone to be a real success, they have to offer a monthly plan that is cheaper than the $70/month minimum for the iphone or Droid.

Well, yes. I get excited over little leaks when I think something big is coming, but I still expect something realistic. I read a lot of things that seemed to be hinting at something magical, like free phones, with free calls, and a jet pack accessory. I hope I haven't contributed to that.

I hope your right... But I doubt it...If VoIP is part of the home... TMobile & ATT already have Data only plans available as it is... So I doubt google would limit the VoIP feature for Tmobile... How open would that be... That sounds more like a Verizon of old move then google and TMobile... I think this phone will just be have a great chip in it..... But the price on both sides, phone & plan will be just vanilla...

Hype or not, it's irrelevant. People don't like it, because for most of us it sucks.

You have a good point there John. Besides, didn't we hype up this thing ourselves as a community? So if these are the prices and I'm not saying they are, but if they are and we're upset, shouldn't we blame ourselves? Lol On another note, if these are the going prices, then wouldn't it make sense for Google to keep the pricing in a competitive range so they wouldn't drown every other company that's has Android phones for sale? It's not like we all couldn't save a little longer and buy one anyways. We know T-Mobile has some amazing things with faster data coming soon and I for one am going to get a new phone this next year, even if it's $530. So as John said "When was the last time Google did something predictable and boring? I'll be paying attention on 01/05" (via twitter)

So now that I think about it, unless your VoIP stuff comes true, they're screwing anyone that wants MORE or LESS minutes than this plan offers. Not to mention some of us don't even want texting.

Nope, still doesn't do it for me. Right now my wife and I are on a 400 minute grandfathered plan that costs us $49 a month. I'm looking to upgrade to smartphones and add $25 to each line, so right at $100 a month for my service. And yes, 400 minutes is PLENTY for us considering all our calls to each other are free.So if these plans stand, I would instead have to pay $160 a month, or $60 more each month. So in comparison to a G1 or myTouch...it's easily about $1500 more over a 2 year period. Now if I were to go the unlocked route, it's $1060 up front, but I could renew my contract and get two G1s for $260, so a savings of $800 over that two year period.

I am in the same boat as you. It is cheaper for my wife and I to get two subsidized phones on a family share plan and put up with a two year contract. The price savings between the subsidized and non-subsidized plans is only $240 over two years. It actually looks like T-Mobile is losing money when you buy two subsidized phones on a family share plan.

Suck that you can't pick your own plan but 500 min I don't know about that guess we just have to wait and see I would love to get this phone but can't upgrade till next year and $530 I just wait till something new come out