[Updated] Apple And Samsung Trial Verdict In, And The Winner Is…

Court officials have informed the press that the jury in the Apple vs. Samsung trial have decided on a verdict after just three days of deliberation. The situation is still developing so stay tuned as we bring you the latest. We’ll keep updating the post as news comes in so stay tuned!

Developing…

Everyone is assembled and waiting for Judge Koh and the jury to arrive.

Judge Koh has entered the courtroom. Shouldn’t be long…

Judge Koh hasn’t yet seen the verdict form.

She wants a quick look at it first to check for any inconsistencies.

Apple and Samsung agree to take 10-15 minutes to review the document if inconsistencies are found.

Judge Koh won’t release the jury until everything is clear.

The jury is entering the room.

And so it begins…

Judge Koh has asked for the verdict to be read.

Time for Apple’s claims.

All Samsung devices infringe upon the 381 scrollback patent.

More Samsung devices are being listed as infringing upon other patents. Very hard to keep up with.

Most Samsung devices are infringing upon Apple’s software patents.

Samsung was apparently aware and willful on most of the patents.

Now they’re questioning whether or not Samsung was willful in their infringements.

Samsung Galaxy Tab  did not infringe on iPad design patent.

None were proven invalid by Samsung.

Only iPhone 3G trade dress is protectable. This whole thing isn’t looking good for Samsung.

Some of the Samsung phones did infringe. Some did not.

Samsung definitely did dilute on trade dress with several older phones.

No for the iPad trade dress.

Damages are $1, 051, 855, 000. 

Apple hasn’t infringed on any Samsung patents yet.

Apple doesn’t infringe on any of Samsung’s utility patents. Seems legit…

Apple didn’t prove they were invalid.

Absolutely no damages to Apple from Samsung.

Everything is going for Apple and against Samsung.

Samsung won nothing and Apple won the majority of their cases.

Both parties are reviewing the verdict form. We’ll keep you posted if anything else develops. So far, it looks like Apple got off clean and Samsung’s going to be digging very deep into their wallet.

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kanoneyez 71 pts

2012-0826: Appearing in "The Sunday Times" (published by "Bay Area News Group," in section "A" of the San Jose Mercury News) was an interview with Velvin Hogan, jury foreman on the case. He himself is an inventor and has had to deal with challenges related to patents.  He said that going into the session, he was not an Apple sympathizer, but as he and other jurors listened to the "evidence" he felt there was definite evidence regarding the phones but not the not so much with the tablets. He said the jury "wanted to send a message to the industry at large that patent infringement is not the right thing to do." (So essentially making Samsung the scapegoat for everyone else's bad conduct collectively. Hopefully this "message" comes back to burn Apple when its their turn to get raked over the coals of justice.) While awarding Apple half of the settlement they were seeking, he also felt Apple's actions were an attempt to be a monopoly. 

 

I still feel the amount awarded was obscene but the case is being appealed anyway. 

paisannyc 5 pts

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:Samsung Ordered to Pay Apple Over $1 Billion in Patent-Infringement Case [7:10 p.m. ET]

so what does all this mean for consumers and the availability of samsung products

Applefangirl 13 pts

I could be wrong but I think Samsung is just to pay this massive fee.. Didn't mention barring the sale of the items listed. Not sure about going forward though. 

TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse 36 pts

 Applefangirl yes they did, but I don't think either side came out unscathed. Samsung got their ass handed to them financially, but Apple has definitely lost quite a bit of consumer favor with their legal battles. (Ive seen petitions to try and stop apple from being suing companies and so on). Not to mention that both sides still have a long legal battle in other countries and in other courts. 

 

This is just a big stepping stone over a big river. 

Applefangirl 13 pts

 TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse I have always felt that Samsung violated the patent. This is an Apple victory for sure..and I don't think you will find too many Apple fans upset with them. Of course.. Android fans will never like them soooo.. to each his own.

TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse 36 pts

Im definitely no Apple fan, Im an android fan, but ive known samsung could have done better to be unique in design. They laptops and all that do copy from Apple. Its like watching your friend do something stupid and not listen to you. 

 

In my opinion, Apple was infringed upon, but they went about it in the wrong way. That wrong way generated negative press and public opinion of Apple, and that will hurt them a great deal more than anything samsung did. 

 

Its a lose-lose for both sides. Apple gets some cash of samsungs, but that 1billion is just a drop in the bucket for the more long term effects. Patent law, public opinion, etc. Android fans could flock to samsung and start buying more samsung in order to spite apple. I already know many people have stopped buying apple just to not be part of the companies bad business practices. Samsung may not become the martyr in the android v apple war. A martyr that shoppers will revive by flocking to. ... or it could turn out completely different and samsung get shunned by shoppers and have apple get the sympathy vote and people flock to them. 

 

Either way, the courts rulings for damages is just a small part of the impact this will have on both companies and the tech world as a whole. 

Applefangirl 13 pts

 TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse You could be right.. I love Apple but I must admit I love Samsung too.. I currently own an Apple phone and a Samsung Galaxy tab (which to me looks just like the ipad..lol  :) ) But I don't really blame Apple for going after them. I think if things were reversed... Samsung would do the same thing.. I certainly would. Samsung was hired to build parts of the iphone and basically stole the design.. That is kind of a crappy thing to do. You let a guy live in your house and he steals your stereo.. do you go after him?.. yup. How will this affect future phones and gadgets? Good question. :)

TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse 36 pts

 Applefangirl As many tech and patent experts are saying, this will change patent law and regulations in the long run. If we think about it, that Apple is more of a winner not because they "invented" something, but because of the way the patent system works. Its the thought that most things done today are built upon someone else's design, and no "invention" is truly unique. 

 

I just wonder how big of a target this is going to paint on Apple? If you think about it, Apple and Google have never really been going at one another, but its getting there. Apple definitely has plenty of patents they infringe upon, and do so willingly. Apple is a company that has no problem stealing from others for their own benefit. Samsung did the same. They just got smacked for it. Now its Apple's turn. With many more lawsuits coming around against Apple, I would not be surprised if we eventually, in the next few years at this rate, see Google v Apple in the courts. 

Applefangirl 13 pts

 TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse THANK YOU!

Now we play the waiting game.

MatthewDooley 5 pts

Come on tell us, tell us............

TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse 36 pts

So lets see here, either A) Samsung wins an overall victory B) Apple wins and overall victory C) Both sides come out about even. In any case, we all know one thing to be true. A bunch of happy fanboys along with a bunch of butthurt ones. 

TheOneandOnlyAnonymouse 36 pts

Still waiting....and the winner is.....Nokia!

Dying here... what's the verdict!?!?

Zricon15 6 pts

Still waiting. They sure are taking their time!